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by Roderick Treece
Mon Oct 04, 2004 7:34 pm
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Extira? Any body heard of it
Replies: 11
Views: 8649

Thanks for all the feed back.As it turns out the job didn't happen but I like all the info.I am a little concerned with the last post regarding coating first with shellack then resin.I hope that works for you .I would be worried about changing materials like that.You could do a first wash with thin ...
by Roderick Treece
Mon Sep 27, 2004 8:17 pm
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Non-Pounce Patterns
Replies: 14
Views: 12626

Jill,

From your post it sounds like your tecnique is a very traditional one I would suggest looking into a electro pounce.It will save you alot of time.Also I use a plotter when I can which save me from have to pounce anything by hand.

Roderick
by Roderick Treece
Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:28 pm
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Silver patina finish
Replies: 3
Views: 3483

Thanks for the reply Sara. I will try your suggestion.I've received a little more info on the "Lead finish I discribribed.After apllying silver leaf with oil size.Wash on Cupric Nitrite/ ammonium chloride first and then barium sulfide second without rinseing between.It produces a beutiful lead ...
by Roderick Treece
Tue Sep 07, 2004 7:34 pm
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: gems and jewels
Replies: 0
Views: 2494

gems and jewels

I received an e-mail from Dave Smith regrading "Diamonds"which lead me to beleave he might be trying to find out where I get my gems and jewels. You can receive a great catalog from Rio Grande by calling 18005456566 or go on line www.riogrande.com. They have alot of great things to offer.W...
by Roderick Treece
Sun Sep 05, 2004 4:48 pm
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Silver patina finish
Replies: 3
Views: 3483

Silver patina finish

This ones from the no brain left dept. Years ago I did a finish on silver leaf that looked like dark lead.Anybody know how to do that.All I remember is that it was a 2 part chemical process.You put one chemical on and then when you apply the next one it turned the silver into a beutiful dark lead pa...
by Roderick Treece
Tue Aug 24, 2004 12:50 pm
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Cutawl users?
Replies: 5
Views: 5904

Mike, I love my cutall.Another one of those things that got pasted down from father to son.Most people don't take the time to get used to it, but when you do it's great.You have to keep a sheet of cheap beaded foam 2" to 4" around to lay under your material when cutting. If I had a big pro...
by Roderick Treece
Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:00 pm
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Beware Nigerian Fraud !
Replies: 0
Views: 2436

Beware Nigerian Fraud !

Sorry to brake for the normal topic. There is a scam going around .Anyone selling items on the internet is a possible victim. I was contacted about a car I had listed on the net.I received payment ( cashiers check) for the car plus "The shipping cost" and then I was sapposed to wire the fu...
by Roderick Treece
Sat Aug 14, 2004 9:18 pm
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Rock island railroad
Replies: 6
Views: 4132

Thanks so much Rick and Mike for the posting.Unfortunatly it doesn't show all the incredible detail that the peices had in them. Todd e-mailed to say that he didn't know where they went.I did see one when I went to grass valley for the western antique show last year.I started to do some research ab...
by Roderick Treece
Tue Aug 10, 2004 4:57 pm
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Wenzel's "Modern Decorative Art" (large images)
Replies: 3
Views: 3857

Thanks Mike.I always love the art you post.So much so that I had to start a "Mike Jackson art" file.Keep up the great work.

Roderick

P.S. Might be driving a project out to jackson hole " 3 Creek Ranch" .See you if I do.
by Roderick Treece
Thu Aug 05, 2004 2:56 pm
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Rock island railroad
Replies: 6
Views: 4132

Rock island railroad

Anybody remember those incredible Rock island rail road backpainted pieces that Rick had in his studio?I was telling a friend of mine about them so we googled the name to no avail.If anybody has a photo of one please post it.

Thanks Roderick
by Roderick Treece
Tue Aug 03, 2004 11:14 am
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Signmaking 101: Adhering Photos to glass
Replies: 5
Views: 5646

Awhile ago I did a few tests. 1) Ricks formula 2)Ricks formula plus lots of japan dryier and fiberseal 3)two part epoxy 30 minute My favorite so far was the epoxy.Dries fast and when it kicks it's done.Rick's formula , useing historic materials would by it's very nature be slow setting and if you ha...
by Roderick Treece
Fri Jul 30, 2004 7:21 pm
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Pictorals on glass - Saran Wrap?
Replies: 5
Views: 5197

If your good enough to paint a pictorial then try doing it in reverse on the glass.First do a peice forward taking notes of all the layers used and then reverse the order working from the back to the front on glass.That is true reversed painting.

Roderick
by Roderick Treece
Fri Jul 30, 2004 1:25 pm
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Extira? Any body heard of it
Replies: 11
Views: 8649

Do you think it would stay flat and not warp with out a frame?

Roderick
by Roderick Treece
Thu Jul 29, 2004 7:20 pm
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Extira? Any body heard of it
Replies: 11
Views: 8649

Extira? Any body heard of it

I had a designer call out a material ( Extira) for a cutout hanging blade sign.I found it on googles but it doesn't give any info regarding cutting it out and hanging it up without a frame to keep it from warping.What is everybody else useing out there.

Thanks Roderick
by Roderick Treece
Wed Jul 28, 2004 8:38 pm
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Lettering brushes and Hot pants?
Replies: 1
Views: 3004

Lettering brushes and Hot pants?

Lately all the great things for sale on e-bay that have been mentioned on this post have been very cool .But I checked out the lettering brushes and while I thought those were a very good deal,what got my attention where the other items for sale by the same seller.Thinking that they might have other...
by Roderick Treece
Wed Jul 28, 2004 8:28 pm
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Carving Chisels on Ebay...
Replies: 5
Views: 4656

Jill,

Never be affraid to mension some thing so cool as a pair of Hot red Hot pants.I'm bidding on them so don't be surprized if you get somthing from me on your b-Day.have you noticed Larry is'nt coping to wanting a pair?

Roderick
by Roderick Treece
Tue Jul 27, 2004 11:31 pm
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Carving Chisels on Ebay...
Replies: 5
Views: 4656

Larry,
thanks for the hot tip but if you look closer I think the great deal is on the red HOT pants for sale! Just below the brushes.Let me know if you weant them for your b-day.

Roderick
by Roderick Treece
Mon Jul 26, 2004 11:47 pm
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Train Car Lettering
Replies: 8
Views: 8157

Train Cars,Now theres a beutiful backgroud to paint on. The fist time I saw a train being hand painted I was at Knott's Berry Farm with my six grade class and we saw this guy lettering the locamotive in ghost town.I you can imagin how proud i was when it turn out to be my dad. Later we lettered a tr...
by Roderick Treece
Mon Jul 19, 2004 4:41 pm
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: weird tricks and tools dept. " The Booger Brush"
Replies: 1
Views: 3066

weird tricks and tools dept. " The Booger Brush"

The first time i ever heard of a "Booger Brush was from Big daddy Ed Roth. While painting a sign and eating a sandwich at some point he picked his nose and then it happened.He driped some paint on the background and used his Booger Brush ( Finger) to wipe it off. The great thing is I already ha...
by Roderick Treece
Thu Jul 08, 2004 7:37 pm
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Scented Talc
Replies: 8
Views: 7219

Rick,
Yes it did hellp to stop useing the "NIGHTS IN PARIS".But as for the programing my dad was strikly a "Caddy" kind of guy.He didn't mind loaning me the money for my first citreon though.
Roderick
by Roderick Treece
Mon Jul 05, 2004 2:16 pm
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Scented Talc
Replies: 8
Views: 7219

Rick, In with all the guilding suppiles I inhereted from my dad was a very cool 40's scented talc container with the brand name "NIGHTS IN PARIS" sexy ah? I thought maybe somthing in there was causeing fish eyes so I stoped using it.Now it's just a display item.Oh yes and I smell good now ...
by Roderick Treece
Fri Jul 02, 2004 9:00 pm
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: AKA: Handlettering
Replies: 21
Views: 17710

Thanks for all the diferent veiw points. As for me I still letter everything by hand , even banners.There are so many vinyl shops I see no point in investing in expensive equipment.When I do use my BRAND NEW plotter so far it's been to make patterns and masks(great for glue chipping). I don't miss b...
by Roderick Treece
Wed Jun 02, 2004 7:39 pm
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Silvering glass to the edge of lettering?
Replies: 10
Views: 8791

Ron,
Years ago before i knew any better I painted a peice of art on glass and then took it to be mirrored.They told me they could'nt promise it would work but it did.So I know that it works.hope that helps.

Roderick
by Roderick Treece
Wed May 26, 2004 8:34 pm
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: spray siliver
Replies: 11
Views: 10211

I forgot to mension that the spray gun has two hose feeds to the gun and that the chemicals are mixed in the air out in front of the gun poir to hitting the glass.As far as I could tell the first local guy had all the pre mixed chemicals from peacock labs.Joe has all these unmarked dark brown bottle...
by Roderick Treece
Wed May 26, 2004 8:28 pm
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: spray siliver
Replies: 11
Views: 10211

spraying silver

The two I've seen spray their silver.I've been told that the big shops spray on a convayor belt system. After quite a few unsuccessful trys i gave up on doing my own silvering.That lead me to find only two people in San Deigo that do "Resilvering"The first one happens to be 2 miles away wh...
by Roderick Treece
Mon May 03, 2004 2:04 pm
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Removing mirroring
Replies: 2
Views: 3692

Removing mirroring

After a peice is mirrored and has the art work apllied (backed up) I've been useing silver strip to remove the silver thats not backed up.Is there a formula mixture that removes the silver and yet will not harm the edges of the backed up silver.I'm thinking maybe my mix (from Sarah) might be to stro...
by Roderick Treece
Sun May 02, 2004 7:41 pm
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: glue chippng To leave the mask or not
Replies: 7
Views: 7028

Thanks again for all the info.I am not sure I like the new "QOUTE" feture as It lets Mike point out in very humbling detail when you say the wrong thing.I promise never ever to subsitute the word " POUR" for the word "sqeuzee" (I probable did'nt use that word because I ...
by Roderick Treece
Sat May 01, 2004 9:55 am
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: glue chippng To leave the mask or not
Replies: 7
Views: 7028

Good morning Mike, Sorry about the upper case. After reveiwing all the articles I am in fact mixing teqniques.I know it is'nt nessary but when the aspaltum is blasted away I know it's frosted. My question is for "Ricks" and your metheod when the mask is removed I get a very slight freying ...
by Roderick Treece
Fri Apr 30, 2004 11:29 pm
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: glue chippng To leave the mask or not
Replies: 7
Views: 7028

MIKE, I AM COATING THE GLASS WITH ASPLATUM AND THEN APPLING MY MASK.THEN SANDBLASTING(WHICH I LIKE BECAUSE YOU CAN TELL WHEN IT IS FROSTED WHEN THE ASPALTUM IS GONE).AT THAT POINT I HAVE BEEN LEAVING THE MASK ON AND POURING THE GLUE.WAITING UNTIL IT IS READY TO TRIM ANY GLUE THAT HAS RUN OVER. I WAS...
by Roderick Treece
Fri Apr 30, 2004 9:07 pm
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: glue chippng To leave the mask or not
Replies: 7
Views: 7028

glue chippng To leave the mask or not

I am getting ready to do alot of chipping and I have all ready sandblasted my glass.I usaully leave the mask on while appling the glue but I know that some of you like to take the mask off.Well I tried that and It seems to leave a slight jagged edge in spots to the asphaltum.It's a big job so I don'...