My guess is that it makes the silver layer harder and maybe deposit a little heavier. Could be they add the zinc to cut the silver content and stretch their dollars. But that's just a guess. Pat Could a Single Displacement Reaction be happening? is there a way to deposit zinc in a silver like manner?

some Spray on chrome systems use zinc nitrate(MSDS) in their formula, I would guess its to make the front surface mirrors they are calling chrome a whiter toner?

is this even possible?

erikwinkler wrote:Use a hairblower/heatgun put it on maximum blowpower temperature 60 degrees celcius and then immediatly, when the silver is back to 37 degrees, clear coat it again.

WOW...I will have to try that....Thanks...

I can not deduct what happened after the six months... let me help you then, even if the part that was Silvered was not mine, I am having the same issue, Humidity got to the Silver, it happens a lot, seems that Clear coats are not meant to be applied over bare metal, just over base coats... :x ther...

Ismael, You are still with it?! I will Never give up... 8) I see in one of your posts that you used the permalac satin , why did you do that?. it was the only one that they had at the time, but I am not impressed with the overall durability of lacquers.. :x what is the problem you have with these c...

it seems I have bring the attention to Angle Gilding somewhat by my threads and posts.... :mrgreen: this is from the site(was not there before) http://angelgilding.com/SpraySilver.html "Spray Silver reacts faster than Pouring Silver. Spray Silver is perfect for large mirrors, "spray chrome...

I just finished another test project. This time I made a few verre eglomié pieces. 11 Panels. The trees are mica etched, then gilded in 23,75 crt and scratched in the wanted shapes. Then I gilded the houses and rest of the trees in 18 crt and backed this up. Then I painted the rainbow in colored tr...

Hello is there anyone who sells a second hand silvering gun and maybe a sentisizing gun? Or give me some tips of making my own with two stainless steel guns? Erik I replace the aluminum cup for a hand made stainless steel one, it works good for now and its cheap, about 30$ this is my Hand Made Silv...

oK guy I finnaly was able to upload some pics, unfortunately my Chrome spoon was not the Best, poor weather and poor painter´s skills got me... this is what I work with, I do not show the Final ClearCoat beacuse I am still working with it and I dont use Permalac I just put it there to show you that ...

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Looking forward to learning lots from you guys, and renewing some old friendships.
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The story of my life...

how about making new friendships...

quote] I am not broke buddy I was talking about my own budget at the moment :wink:[/quote] Ok... :lol: I thought it was me...sorry, but why dont you make your own silvering chemicals. :?: hey I fixed the yellowing hue..now I have shiny silver after clearing it, I was not cleaning it enough after si...

Ismael, you are right, but if you are broke you are broke. No matter in what currency :wink: I am not broke buddy, I just work with a limited budget of 500 dollars a month, to you that might be not much but in nicaragua that is having a good job....anyways this kit is for the limited budget people ...

erikwinkler wrote:Shipping to Nederland (Europe) is even more!

I bet...but you guys earn Euros and I earn Cordobas(21 Cordobas = 1 dollar) and I have a very limited budgect...

Would this mean that you thin the concentration of the reducer as well? No, actually I kept it the same... :o Ismael, I do not understand why with your tests the hue will transform in a yellowish color... When Peacock has no problems at all. http://www.pchrome.com/products.htm Did you use the Perma...

Are you planning to mimic traditional chrome plating by substituting silvering and then protecting it with clear powder coating? If this is the case, I think that you will have to be able to apply a very smooth powder coat finish, and from my experience the very nature of the powder heat cure finis...

Ok guys I will be writing this How to with the purpose of leading the people interested in this subject to a starting point, by no means this is a definitive and clear cut way, as I have search and search for answers my self on the web for this, I have search chemicals forum like this, automotive fo...

Not Sure if this will work, but, you can give it a try. http://www.peacocklabs.com/permalac.htm And for silvering plastic and rubber, try wetting agent C-22, Scroll up the page a bit and you will see it. http://www.peacocklabs.com/products.htm#chemicals RMN while Peacock labs do have the Cheapest S...

DAVE SMITH wrote:Silver will attach well to Arterial red Erik,I used it on some modern art panels about 5 years ago and they still look good . Silvered normally.
Dave

Did you clear it? I need to do it as the costumers like to touch it after I show them the product...

Ismael, I just have the feeling that not every surface will bond with tin.... Erik you are right sir...I dont use it on bare plastic, I prep the plastic first, primer, white base coat followed by clearcoat, this is my base later I apply the silvering then the protective clear coat..I have test most...

erikwinkler wrote:Well what is the process?

its basically the same as silvering mirrors, but in this case I can extend the usage to cool Candy paint colors, not only silver....

That is soo cool! I have been investigating it also. Did you tinned it and silvered it? Erik yes... :D I don't have knowledge of any specific process for silvering materials other than glass I would suspect that anything with a fairly smooth surface that will retain the tinning solution will also a...

ok guys I have finally made it happen....I have silvered plastic, I will be posting pics of sample spoons with other colors......

Why is it you think you need to back silver with tin ? Most commercial mirrors are backed with copper. its not to back it up.. :D its more for a First Surface Mirror.....I know I can always clear coat them, but they will lose the whole FS Mirror apeal a customer is look for... I know First Surfave ...

hey have any of you good people have tryed this yet?...

check the link
http://www.finishing.com/3000-3199/3136.shtml

I will try it soon I will let you know..

Stuart Norton wrote:A re-silver job last week It felt like sacrilege, to re-silver see the date stamp on back

Wow..
my Great gandmother(god bless her sould) was born on that year...sadly she past away 10 years ago...

Thank you friends for your kind words. I feel very doubtful about the chemistry involved in trying to sensitize the glass with lead instead of tin. Many people have tried many things but everyone decides in the end that tin works best. I'd love to know if you succeed in using lead.. I will be tryin...

Doug Bernhardt wrote: It would also be worth knowing Sarah King who with her husband has a business supplying these various needs.

Ismael Alvarado wrote:I actually buy the premade silvering chemicals from a familly owned company that we all know here

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Thank you guys, for your helpful tips... I actually buy the premade silvering chemicals from a familly owned company that we all know here, but I am also the curius type of guy and like to know how things work...

Yes patrick I am trying to make a tinning(sensitizer) solution for home made mirrors, But I just can´t seem to get it right...! the tinn that I can get my hand is not pure so the HCL is not doing a very good job...but I can get my hands on Stannous Cloride in crystal form, I wonder what is the right...

Hi to you all good people from this nice place, well let me tell you that I am quite the curious type of person, and I like to find out how things works... so I search and search for a home made sensitizer formula and I found it here: http://astro.umsystem.edu/atm/ARCHIVES/JUN01/msg00998.html BUT I ...