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Re: Lear

Post by erik winkler » Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:25 am

Ofcourse it useless to write here that the panel looks amazing, because every dumpass knows it IS amazing (even me 8) ).
Realizing we are in the 2nd renaissance of the arts.
Learn, copy and trying to improve...
Still in the learning phase ;-)
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Re: Lear

Post by DAVE SMITH » Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:10 pm

Thankyou Erik.
Dave

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Re: Lear

Post by BruceJackson » Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:11 pm

Amazing is it? Hmmm....It's OK I suppose...

A bit overblown. Smacks of try-hard-ism. Too many bloody curly bits! Makes me wither to have to fight through so much decoration. The textures and finishes are a bit ho-hum...We've seen it all before Dave. Same old etch, same old cutting, same old gold. Pearl inlays and blended shadows? give me a break.....Stop wearing out the same old path with the mock-Victorian salute to a dead era. Give us something to get excited about.






So...is my knife too sharp?...Nah!...Just offering Dave some constructive criticism to help him progress from enthusiastic student to journeyman....(b@stard! hahaha)

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Re: Lear

Post by Dan Seese » Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:14 am

Dave,

You've outdone yourself, again - despite all those bothersome curly thingies.

Wish I could see it in person. I would love to see the other letters of the alphabet as well. I'm sure there are a lot of creative approaches. But there's nothing like gold on glass, especially when designed and executed with your multi-leveled skills and talent. What a joy to see it.

Here's to seeing you do many more projects for appreciative and well-endowed clients.

Dan

P.S. Still putting that Smith Tip to good use here.
Dan
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Re: Lear

Post by Robert Schwieger » Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:39 pm

Hello Dave,

Again, simply sensational. Question: Do you use a stop-line or mask to contain the blended shades? Thanks for your kind advice. Bob

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Re: Lear

Post by Bill DeBekker » Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:46 pm

Brutal Bruce,,, Just Brutal :shock:

Master Dave,
You really need to do some Training DvDs for us Poo Slobs that can't make it England to learn. Classroom in a book/DvD sorta thing..

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Re: Lear

Post by BruceJackson » Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:30 am

Hi Bill,

Brutal?...yeah, a bit...I know sarcasm doesn't always work online......but you have to remember. Dave is a pom...and I'm a colonial....So it is in our cultural heritage to be able to get away with high praise dressed as dismissive insult...hahaha....he'll know it's a mark of my admiration.

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Re: Lear

Post by DAVE SMITH » Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:01 am

Just back from Liverpool after 2 days of fitting glass to find some well deserved colonial banter. Bill once a pom beats an Aussie at Rugby especially a world cup game they will never get over it ( cultural heritage ) does play a big part here . I will admit though I did find your last post full of humouras sarcasm Brutal Bruce, made me laugh! from now on I am sticking to Helvetica medium uppercase black outlined with water gilded centres, at least then it will be readable. and I promise no scrolls... now on the otherhand the next few photos you will find funny especially trying to cut off a one inch piece of half inch glass because someone measured the panel wrong and then having to put the whole panel behind a tinted piece of glass due to fire regulations, what has become of this world( health and safety gone mad).... may as well have just used double sided gold foil vinyl... lol . Thanks Bruce

Dave
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Re: Lear

Post by DAVE SMITH » Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:08 am

Robert. The stop line ( black in this case) is hand painted first and then I brush blended over it with the greans once it was dry, no masks just good old fashioned signwriting.. Thanks Bob.

Dan. thanks ,glad to hear your still using the Smith Tip. I could never get on with it and still just gild normally... ha ha

Hope your well mate and busy. miss those people at the Conclaves.. good times in Wilmington..
Dave

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Re: Lear

Post by DAVE SMITH » Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:32 am

Well this was the home for the Lear piece. All this work and finally hidden behind a nice piece of tinted glass but hopefully not for long.
Luckily the glass did not break when these guy's started to decrease the size of it after a wrong measurement was given to me at the start, funny thing is I asked the people who were paying for this to measure the openning three times just incase. always measure twice and cut once they say... not this time round.. should of driven there and measured it myself. Hopefully this will be moved after Christmas the back painted in a chosen colour with a possible gided boarder and then frames in Mahogany and put in a place within the building to show it full glistening potential....


Dave
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nice hey! shows up really well.. not!

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Re: Lear

Post by erik winkler » Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:05 pm

What an idiots....
We know how it should look.
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Re: Lear

Post by Patrick Mackle » Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:06 pm

I'll bet the man that ran that glass cut fell into the nearest pub for a pint!
Pat
On closer look, I see it was laminated glass as well. Add another pint! :wink:

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Re: Lear

Post by DAVE SMITH » Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:42 pm

Pat. He was confident and realised the work that had gone into the panel, and your right laminated glass cut from both sides set fire to meths on the length of the panel to stretch it ,at which point if left too long can crack the panel, he was stressed but was hiding it well. In the picks his mate is cutting through the laminate which was pretty thick. The plan now is to go back take it out ,bring it back ,paint the back and frame it and get it up on the wall in the museum to be viewed at the correct height without a smoked piece of glass in front . Luckily when I was there the client who I had never met agreed that this should happen and that they have the funds to cover the extra work...
Dave

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Re: Lear

Post by Duncan Wilkie » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:07 pm

Geez, that makes my stomach turn Dave. Kind of like watching a surgeon doing your vasectomy.
Okay, that analogy was a bit rough, quite unlike the finished project here which is stunning. Any idea of how many hours you've got in this? I have the attention span of a gnat, anything more than 2 or 3 days on a project and I'm spent.
Thanks sincerely, once again for sharing the process and the ensuing masterpiece.

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Re: Lear

Post by DAVE SMITH » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:18 pm

Hi Duncan. I have roughly four weeks work in the panel including making the design, I was not working on it every minute of the day but certainly a good portion of it.
Thanks
Dave

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