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Question about quils

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Padma Samchuk
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Question about quils

Post by Padma Samchuk »

Hi,

I am in need of quills that have a chisel or square end to them suitable for acrylics for Arial type of lettering.

Being an artist and not a sign painter, I don't know what Mack calls them or has them numbered or listed as.

Can somebody please be so kind advise me of what they are called or listed as.

As a way of thank you , I will post a pic of the painting when it is finished.

By the way nice forum you guys got here.

Thank you

Padma
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Re: Question about quils

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27 views and not one reply.

Oh well.
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Re: Question about quils

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Welcome to the forum Padma,
I think you might need to say a bit more about yourself to get a reply, where are you based?
Padma Samchuk
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Re: Question about quils

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Anthony Bennett wrote:Welcome to the forum Padma,
I think you might need to say a bit more about yourself to get a reply, where are you based?
Well Anthony I live in the B.C. mountains in the middle of no were...a 12 hr drive to any city...so any thing I need has to be ordered from on line catalog and the Mack site, although very pretty, does not give a very accurate description of their quills as to liner, brights, chisels ect. So that is why I am here asking you guys.

This thread question is now up to 47 views and not one single answer. Is this some sort of trade secret or something?
Tyler Tim
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Re: Question about quils

Post by Tyler Tim »

Hello Padma and Welcome.

A couple questions if I may.

What size copy will you be lettering... what is the lettering being painted on... glass.. wood... drywall... brick or canvas? You say acrylics that is a wide latitude of products from artist colors to enamels and latex. If you can give some more specific info. I'm sure you'll get replies that will point you in the right direction. There are a ton of very talented individuals here but I don't recall anyone having Telepathy :shock: . Arial or block style letters can be painted with One Stoke brushes and lettering quills.

# of views mean zip as non members that look in are counted but can not reply... if you keep peeking at it... each time you look... another view :lol: .

Anyway a little more info if you could... thanks Tim.

Click around here it may help you in your search. http://www.dickblick.com/categories/bru ... ameorshape
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Padma Samchuk
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Re: Question about quils

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Thank you Tim,

Liquitex on Liquitex on gessoed 1/8 in mahog ply
1/16, 1/8/, 3/8 and 1/2 in lines.
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Re: Question about quils

Post by Mike Jackson »

Padma,
Welcome to the Hand Lettering Forum,
Eventually, you will get the specific answer you need, but there are so many variables in a generic question. To get quick, concise replies, you probably need to be specific. Also, none of the people on this site are paid to sit at the computer to answer questions (as you might find on a tech support forum for a software company). We check in at our leisure at various times of the day or week and respond when we have time. As someone else mentioned, the number of views isn't necessarily a good barometer. Half of them might have been you checking in. The other half might have been lurkers that never post.

Personally, I'd write to Mack Brush or Dick Blick and explain exactly what I am trying to do and let them help me.

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I just read your reponse of Liquitex on Liquitex. Almost any nylon or synthetic brush will work with some degree of success. You might find out that Liquitex isn't a particularly friendly paint for lettering signs. By the time it is thinned enough to "flow" from a brush, it will be too transparent. The Liquitex acrylic artist paints are generally forumulated to be "daubed" onto a surface in a manner similar to oil paints.

For most of the past 40 or 50 years, most signs were hand lettered with oil based paints like One Shot, Dana Color, Ronan, or Chromatic using either quills or flats. Gray quills are usually used for most surface lettering and brown quills were used more for glass lettering. Flats are usually wider and used for bigger projects like billboards.

Good luck with your lettering quest.

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Tyler Tim
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Re: Question about quils

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Padma Samchuk wrote:Thank you Tim,

Liquitex on Liquitex on gessoed 1/8 in mahog ply
1/16, 1/8/, 3/8 and 1/2 in lines.
Padma,

I'll take it you are painting a scape or scene that has some text that will represent signage in the painting. Lettering at that scale I think a small Bright would be the way to go.

Have a look... http://www.dickblick.com/products/blick ... ic-bright/.

Hope that helps you.... Tim
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Re: Question about quils

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Padma,
I like the water base brushes by Mack for lettering acrylic paints thinned to lettering consistency.
The 2179 series is what I use & I believe they are a synthetic/natural blend of bristles and are a very nice brush.
Try them, & try to omit the scolding next time. ;)
Good luck, & let me know which brush you choose & how it works.
Jeff
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Padma Samchuk
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Re: Question about quils

Post by Padma Samchuk »

Thanks Jess, I'll keep your suggestion in mind.

Oh and its the Mack Liner-Series 2838 that

I was looking for.
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Re: Question about quils

Post by Lee Littlewood »

Padma,

If you are intending to do 1/16" high lettering you might consider a pen rather than a brush. Even for a pen that is pretty small, but there are metal nib pens, felt tip nib pens, and one can cut one's own pen from bird quill or bamboo. When you're working that tiny it is easier to use ink than acrylic paint, but there are a number of lovely colors in both india ink and acrylic ink lines. Check out Paper & Ink at www.paperinkarts.com for nibs and inks.
Oh, another question might be: is the piece interior or exterior?

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