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David de Oliveira
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Gilded glass wall- HELPPPPP!

Post by David de Oliveira » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:18 pm

Hello everyone.
A client of mine just ask me for a quote for 100 square meters of gilded glass. I'll have to use fake gold leaf. What kind of size do you recomend and after the gold aplied how'll i fix it? I've never did such a large area and i need some hints.

Thank you for your help!
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Re: Gilded glass wall- HELPPPPP!

Post by Doug Bernhardt » Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:45 am

Thats a big project! Using fake leaf or metal leaf will probably mean oil size but I'll wait for others to add to this. If it were me however I'd simply grab a friend apply a slow size to about half or at some natural divider (it can't be a single piece of glass) and do as much as can be done in one day leafing and an evening in advance for size.
I can't really imagine water gilding thick metals. You should also try and give some context to this. Is it an actual "wall" in something like a shopping centre?

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Re: Gilded glass wall- HELPPPPP!

Post by David de Oliveira » Sun Feb 05, 2017 2:05 pm

The sample i was given access to it is not a "perfect" gilding the applied gold is wrickled and not straight, i mean that's the effect they want. It also has some kind of canvas backing, maybe to aply some kind of adesive to stick to the wall. The project consists in covering the pillars of an hotel lobby, meaning i have to make sure the surface has to suport some kind of sillicon or glue to fix the glass to the wall. Tomorrow i'll have some samples of the glass so i can make tests with it and i'll take a photo so you guys can give me an opinion.
Thank you for you help.

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Re: Gilded glass wall- HELPPPPP!

Post by David de Oliveira » Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:44 am

First test.- Water based size and fixed with varnish.
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Post by Doug Bernhardt » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:03 pm

Does it match the sample? Not sure water size will have made any difference but wonder how well the "crinkles" will hold up to a cleaning.

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Re: Gilded glass wall- HELPPPPP!

Post by BruceJackson » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:26 am

You can water gild those heavier cheap metals. You can get a decent bright finish, but the patina is not as fine looking as gold and it shows more obvious folds, faults and laylines. You generally mix the watersize with more gelatin than you'd use for gold. if using sheet gelatin, say 15-20 diamonds per 500ml (roughly an american pint, i believe, if you are used that measuring system).

but if you want wrinkled, you won't be choosing water gilding. Wrinkling is indicative of oil gilding that has been laid too fresh. Personally, i think it looks faulty like that, but if that's what the client wants, apply your goldsize unthinned, in a full even layer. not so thick it will run, but a good solid layer. then gild it while it's still sticky...before it goes to the usual whistling tack. the earlier you gild it the more course and pronounced is the wrinkling...gilding it on the border of whistling tack and the wrinkle will be finer.

One thing to be aware of...if it's a large sheet of glass that is laying down flat, the edges of the glass will set up more quickly than the middle, which will cause the finish to be uneven...I'd prop it up on an angle, or have a fan going to keep the air circulating prior to gilding.

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Re: Gilded glass wall- HELPPPPP!

Post by David de Oliveira » Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:25 am

Thank you all for your tips. The client chose exactly the sample i posted here, so i'll go with the oil size and large wrinkles. Once again many thanks.

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