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This is an interactive Bulletin Board on the topics of Sign making, design, fabrication, History, old Books and of coarse Letterheads, Keepers of the craft. The Hand Lettering Forum features links to resources, sign art history, techniques, and artists profiles. Learn more about Letterheads at https://theletterheads.com. Below you'll see Mchat has been added as a live communication portal for trial, and the Main forum Links are listed below.
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- Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:03 pm
- Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
- Topic: GOLDLEAF, ACID ETECHING, GLASS
- Replies: 3
- Views: 23834
Re: GOLDLEAF, ACID ETECHING, GLASS
No. You have to mask off the area that you don't want etched with vinyl (or asphaltum)
- Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:41 am
- Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
- Topic: GOLDLEAF, ACID ETECHING, GLASS
- Replies: 3
- Views: 23834
Re: GOLDLEAF, ACID ETECHING, GLASS
That's Hydrofluoric Acid etching, yes. Was that your question?
- Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:03 pm
- Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
- Topic: Water gilding woes
- Replies: 3
- Views: 25854
Re: Water gilding woes
Looks like something wasn't clean. Whether it was your glass, your tip, your brush or your size. You can clean your tip and watersize brush with dawn, just let it dry fully before using. Clean out your size jar with dawn and give it a good rinse. After you put bon ami on the glass, take a few paper ...
- Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:26 pm
- Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
- Topic: Easy Water Gilded Pinstripe Jig
- Replies: 2
- Views: 26817
Easy Water Gilded Pinstripe Jig
I came upon a job where a client wanted some long pinstripes on a door. The problem was that they were nearly 8' long x 31" wide... and there were two doors. The real kicker was that they wanted burnished or mirrored gold leaf. Yikes. I learned about 5 years ago from Noel Weber how to lay roll ...
- Sat Oct 27, 2018 1:34 pm
- Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
- Topic: Reproduction of a Scalloped Sign and Steps
- Replies: 1
- Views: 8035
Reproduction of a Scalloped Sign and Steps
I post a good deal on the social medias but thought I'd share here since it's an invaluable resource. I first saw the original of this piece in the book "California's Best" that has a small section on breweriana and glass signs. There's a local bay area man that has an original so I was re...
- Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:48 am
- Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
- Topic: mother of pearl
- Replies: 3
- Views: 12842
Re: mother of pearl
Try Morning Calm - you can find it on Etsy and on Ebay. Pretty good quality
https://www.etsy.com/shop/MorningCalmStore
https://www.etsy.com/shop/MorningCalmStore
- Fri May 11, 2018 5:58 pm
- Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
- Topic: Seaside signpainting - océan and salt effects
- Replies: 5
- Views: 10547
Re: Seaside signpainting - océan and salt effects
The Building painter said that because every house painter does two coats. They have to because their paint doesn't have the opacity to cover in one coat. If you get full coverage with one coat, just do one coat. You'll have to redo it eventually as all paint fades, cracks and eventually goes down h...
- Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:00 pm
- Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
- Topic: John Hastings III
- Replies: 1
- Views: 5133
John Hastings III
This may come a bit late, but I've found out that John Hastings has passed away last year May 9th 2017. Some of you might recognize that last name as he was the last of the Hastings family who made Hastings gold leaf. I was able to meet him once as he self published a book on his families history an...
- Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:19 pm
- Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
- Topic: My letters scratch away when i try copper glassgilding
- Replies: 11
- Views: 26877
Re: My letters scratch away when i try copper glassgilding
Just because a client wants something doesn't mean it is possible or practical. I'd just tell them that it is not feasible due to technical limitations. Furthermore, the water size is going to oxidize the copper and turn it brown or green over time.
- Fri Mar 16, 2018 6:12 pm
- Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
- Topic: My letters scratch away when i try copper glassgilding
- Replies: 11
- Views: 26877
Re: My letters scratch away when i try copper glassgilding
You should try using red gold instead of copper leaf. Copper is too thick to get a clean edge with unless you do your outlines first. Also don't use one shot to back up or for outlines, use nazdar fast dry enamel - I believe Handover in UK sells it.
- Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:34 pm
- Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
- Topic: Colortones Paint Formula Book
- Replies: 5
- Views: 14315
Re: Colortones Paint Formula Book
Hey John
Thanks for posting it on there. I bid it and hope to get it from ya! Been looking for this booklet for a long time now!
Thanks for posting it on there. I bid it and hope to get it from ya! Been looking for this booklet for a long time now!
- Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:02 pm
- Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
- Topic: Colortones Paint Formula Book
- Replies: 5
- Views: 14315
Colortones Paint Formula Book
Anyone have a Colortones Paint Formula Book for sale or know of anyone that does? You got a phone number for me to call or someone to contact? Let me know. I work in a big city with people demanding PMS XYZ123 all the time and any help I could get on trying to color match would be a really big deal ...
- Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:06 am
- Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
- Topic: How to Learn Gold Leaf
- Replies: 0
- Views: 24640
How to Learn Gold Leaf
Made a video on the different ways in which one can learn how to gild
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYQRd9Dwo6U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYQRd9Dwo6U
- Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:50 am
- Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
- Topic: New Dux and Old Rolco
- Replies: 2
- Views: 7526
Re: New Dux and Old Rolco
Yeah I was a bit surprised myself. He emphasized that the only difference between the fast size and the slow size was Castor Oil - and a great deal of it. It's what gives the long tack time for the slow size as opposed to a linseed oil. We did a smell test of Rolco and Dux a few years back at a Conc...
- Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:38 am
- Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
- Topic: Fast dry gold size
- Replies: 4
- Views: 16128
Re: Fast dry gold size
To echo Lee a little bit, the main reason to not use Wunda size is that it doesn't flow out well and leaves a lot of brush strokes. The other reason not to use it is because it ruins brushes. I don't for the life of me know how to clean it out of a brush and I don't think it's possible. Oil sizes le...
- Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:51 am
- Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
- Topic: New Dux and Old Rolco
- Replies: 2
- Views: 7526
New Dux and Old Rolco
Just got off the phone with a tech at Dux. I had given him a call because a client of mine wanted to know how green/Leed compliant my products were (kind of a pain in the as) so I gave Dux a call. He informed me that the quick size is actually Tung Oil based and not Linseed Oil. He also informed me ...
- Tue May 09, 2017 7:48 pm
- Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
- Topic: Oil size problem
- Replies: 2
- Views: 6807
Re: Oil size problem
Looks like the size and the paint aren't compatible. Maybe try painting a thin coat of imitation gold/yellow ochre where you are going to letter and then hitting it with the 12 hour. Never seen anything like that though.
- Mon May 01, 2017 9:50 pm
- Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
- Topic: Restoring Victorian Era Transom Gilds.
- Replies: 6
- Views: 13974
Re: Restoring Victorian Era Transom Gilds.
Like I said Terry, the only circumstance that you would use it in is if you painted the outlines of the letters first and then water gilded within them. I don't know what it does to them chemically - it might make it a tad less bright but there is no reason to put a detergent in your water size unle...
- Mon May 01, 2017 1:04 pm
- Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
- Topic: Restoring Victorian Era Transom Gilds.
- Replies: 6
- Views: 13974
Re: Restoring Victorian Era Transom Gilds.
Hi Mike Thank you for the update. I figured out how to attach eventually. Hi Kevin No detergent is ever needed in the size unless you are gilding over an outline of a letter - for example, you painted black outlines for the lettering and you need to gild inside the letters. 4-5 diamonds per pint. I ...
- Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:19 pm
- Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
- Topic: Restoring Victorian Era Transom Gilds.
- Replies: 6
- Views: 13974
Restoring Victorian Era Transom Gilds.
I just thought I'd post here on a typical gilding job for me. I am located in San Francisco and there are a real abundance of Victorian houses here - which means there are a lot of transoms. These are the glass panels above the door of a house that was just an architectural function to let in a bit ...
- Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:54 pm
- Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
- Topic: Thorn Tip
- Replies: 3
- Views: 9473
Re: Thorn Tip
I've seen a few novice gilders use it with novice results. There's no magic tip (including the Smith Tip) that you can break out and get a perfect gild with. Every tip is just a tool and to have mastery over it requires time and practice. In my observations, it's a really slow operation and the resu...
- Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:16 pm
- Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
- Topic: Appropriate thinner/solvent
- Replies: 5
- Views: 12634
Re: Appropriate thinner/solvent
I use VMP Naptha or Naptha - this was recommended to me by Ron Percell at Letterhead Sign Supply and it has yet to fail. It's also the main component in the one shot based thinners. Doesn't seem too toxic but then again exposure to chemicals isn't too bad in the industry. Minimal at worst.
- Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:52 pm
- Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
- Topic: Swan Oyster Depot
- Replies: 1
- Views: 4779
Re: Swan Oyster Depot
I just saw a bunch of blue colors on it and a note, didn't see it actually scraped off and re-gilded though... Any photos?
- Tue Jan 19, 2016 5:20 pm
- Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
- Topic: Hastings Gold Leaf Book for Sale
- Replies: 0
- Views: 25223
Hastings Gold Leaf Book for Sale
After recently talking with John Hastings III today, I've been able to convince him to sell me a number of copies of his self published book "Hastings Gold Leaf." The book catalogs the history of and manufacture of gold leaf, the history of the Hastings company and an appendix that feature...
- Sat Sep 12, 2015 1:20 pm
- Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
- Topic: Plastic containers
- Replies: 1
- Views: 5263
- Wed Jun 17, 2015 3:25 pm
- Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
- Topic: Bubbling on reverse glass gold jobs
- Replies: 6
- Views: 14933
Re: Bubbling on reverse glass gold jobs
"Please give details of the product Shadazzle. I am assuming this is used as Bon Ami is used."
Same use as Bon Ami for gold removal. Slightly less harsh on paint. Nice Lemony smell.
Same use as Bon Ami for gold removal. Slightly less harsh on paint. Nice Lemony smell.
- Sun May 17, 2015 9:33 pm
- Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
- Topic: Bubbling on reverse glass gold jobs
- Replies: 6
- Views: 14933
Re: Bubbling on reverse glass gold jobs
Just as an update - I used the above mentioned formula successfully on location. Gave it about an hour or two dry time for the outlines, then hit it with steel wool and gilded on top. No issues. Used Shadazzle to clean off the excess which worked well.
- Sat Apr 11, 2015 6:05 pm
- Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
- Topic: Bubbling on reverse glass gold jobs
- Replies: 6
- Views: 14933
Re: Bubbling on reverse glass gold jobs
Agreed Pat - Thing is Lacquer Thinners and VM&P Naptha vary a lot regionally. I know here in California a lot of Lacquer Thinners have been getting diluted and I know that VM&P Naptha is harder to find here. I've always been happy with VM&P Naptha so haven't ventured into the hotter lacq...
- Fri Apr 10, 2015 5:36 pm
- Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
- Topic: Bubbling on reverse glass gold jobs
- Replies: 6
- Views: 14933
Re: Bubbling on reverse glass gold jobs
As an update - I talked to a rep at Nazdar, someone with technical know how and he gave me a little insight. I initially asked about the 6100 series, specifically if it was light fast. The answer was that it has a 1 year rating, the 59000 series having a 2+ year rating. However, the tech I was talki...
- Sun Mar 29, 2015 5:25 pm
- Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
- Topic: Pock marks in matte centers
- Replies: 30
- Views: 131745
Re: Pock marks in matte centers
Did a little test - a 50/50 mix of LSS back up black and nazdar 59000 series, used Naptha to thin and Hardener. Water gilded it in 2 hours, backed it up with LSS back up and cleaned off the excess. No problems as far as I can see and that amount of 59000 series should be enough to not grey out, but ...