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by Rick Sacks
Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:24 am
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: memorial conclave number 5
Replies: 15
Views: 8389

Rod, your shop is beautiful and I hope all had an uplifting time of learning and sharing and making our world a better place. Thanks for taking a turn hosting the event.
by Rick Sacks
Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:03 am
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Lola
Replies: 16
Views: 9591

Does anyone have the message Victor delivered at the memorial? Either written or a recording?
by Rick Sacks
Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:30 am
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Lola
Replies: 16
Views: 9591

Lola had a conversion experience that changed her path. That was the glue of her marriage and the street mission they had to spread the message that changed them. Along with the message was a love and caring that validated the words. That love was not a gushy love with no power, but tough enough to ...
by Rick Sacks
Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:23 am
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Hanging Brackets for 1/2" and 3/4" MDO panels
Replies: 5
Views: 3581

We get them from Product Sign Supply and they're the same product. I find it easy to get one size and pull them together or spread them. I also find that they rust ere on the coast and the zinc plating holds up less than a year. Local shops make them for us from stainless, and they work better.
by Rick Sacks
Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:51 pm
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: WANTED: Old Pinstriping photos,etc.
Replies: 7
Views: 6428

Remember the movie "Dad, can I borrow the car?"

Who did the striping in that?
by Rick Sacks
Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:37 am
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Any funny stories to share?
Replies: 37
Views: 26317

and here is one of my old favorites, remembering my friend Al Zanetti's article from Tod's magazine way back when....


How many signpainters does it take to paint an elephant? By Al Zanetti

(originally published in Signs of the Times, May 1982)

Anyone who has been in the commercial sign business for any length of time will attest to the fact that uncommon requests are not uncommon. It must be the nature of our craft for the public to assume that a signpainter can create anything from large-scale pictorial illustrations to exquisitely carved colonial signs complete with brickwork, landscaping and electricity…and do so while hanging 50 feet in the air or in 10 degree weather, not to mention occasionally having to do it overnight. I can think of no other business which is called upon to perform such a myriad of tasks. So naturally, when a client of our studio asked us to paint a couple of elephants for a Memorial Day promotion, we didn’t even blink an eye.

Actually, it all started out as a misunderstanding. The customer, ITT-Continental Baking Co. (the people who have blessed Western civilization with Hostess Twinkies) was so nonchalant about the request we assumed they simply wanted an elephant or two painted in a few shocards or canvas banner announcing a “gigantic saleâ€￾ or some other cliché slogan. (Customers have a habit of requesting illustrations with the same casualness you would ask a gas station attendant to check your oil.) Not until we had committed ourselves and accepted the job did we realize that we were expected to hand-letter two LIVE elephants.

The elephants, which were appearing with the Clyde Beatty–Cole Brothers Circus, would be available inside their tent a few miles away but could be brought to our shop if it was more convenient for us. We thanked the baking company and the promotional people from the circus but decided instantly that we would make an exception in this case and go to the site to do the work. As minor panic slowly over took our small studio we decided that we had better do some research into what we were up against.

Elephants have been painted and decorated for centuries in India and the Far East and figure prominently in the cultures and Hinduism and Buddhism. But, needless to say, the amount of literature available in the area of elephant lettering was less than adequate, not to mention the difficulty we had trying to get the research librarian to take us seriously. In recalling my years as an apprentice with some of the better sign shops in New Jersey, I couldn’t remember anyone with expertise in this area I could call upon for advice. So, in the true spirit of a capitalist entrepreneur, I decided that instructional help in this long-ignored aspect of signwriting was overdue.

I approached a friend of mine, Eric Sonntag, a graphic designer and artist from Somerset, NJ to give me a hand. I knew that he had recently lettered a large hot-air balloon which was a s close a parallel as I could find to this job. He reluctantly agreed once we decided we could send in a few photos of the finished work to Signs of the Times for the “trunk of the monthâ€￾ contest.

Our first approach was to drive out to the circus and size up the job – maybe take measurements for a pounce pattern. Lettering an elephant didn’t appear as difficult as I first imagined. An elephant’s skin is very rough and folds of skin appear and disappear when the animal moves, but it couldn’t be any worse than lettering a weathered masonry wall with hair. It looked simple but, as we learned, there are certain techniques that should be observed.

Elephants are big. Well, not all elephants are big; young elephants are relatively small but are very frisky – don’t attempt to letter a young elephant. Chose a female, if possible, at least 15 years old and preferably older. They are more docile and less ornery than male elephants. Some males have been known to be downright mean. Don’t letter a mean, male elephant. Don’t even go near a mean, male elephant. We were told, once we started, that in fact no elephant is trustworthy and every one is to be considered dangerous. They have no natural affection for man and are completely unpredictable. It is always unsafe to go too close to an elephant and impossible to tell when one feels threatened. We held on a little tighter to our brushes.

There are two species of elephants: Indian or (Asian) and African. Indian elephants are slightly smaller and are the kind that are used in circuses. It is not likely that you will ever be called upon to letter an African elephant. If you are – don’t! AN average, full-grown Indian elephant stands about eight or nine feet high at the backbone and weighs up to six tons, with a lettering area of approximately 5 x 6 ft. horizontal per side.

Try to avoid painting around the tail area. An elephant’s tail is very active and getting in its way feels like getting hit with a hose covered with sandpaper. Also avoid lettering near the ears. An elephant’s ears flap almost continuously and tend to smear any wet paint they can reach. The ears of an Indian elephant are somewhat smaller than those of the African variety, probably to allow for a larger lettering area. An elephant’s trunk can be lettered, with the degree of difficulty increasing as you work toward the end. Stay around the head area as long as you don’t mind staring into the eyes of a five-ton animal. It’s not worth the trouble to letter t he end of the trunk or the feet. Not only are there too many creases and wrinkles to contend with but an elephant moves often and can be dangerous.

It is recommended that an elephant trainer stay with you at all times to comfort and reassure the animal. Make sure the elephant and the trainer like each other.

Before starting, make sure that the elephant is chained securely to the ground, not to a tree or pole which they have been known to remove with ease. Secure one leg in front and one in the rear. This will not keep her from swaying but will keep her from walking away (or over you) while you are painting. Get acquainted with the job. Pat her on the trunk and (if you are smart enough to bring some along) give her some peanuts – popcorn is also good. This is more for your confidence than the elephant’s. Elephant’s are not afraid of strangers. Ask the trainer for her name. Circus elephants always have names and, believe it or not, they’ll respond to it much like your family dog might. Don’t wear any clothes you wouldn’t want paint splattered all over – you will get splattered. And my all means don’t wear low-cut shoes. Elephants aren’t neat. Remove and materials you are not holding in your hands to a safe distance and keep an eye on then. One of our elephants not only ate the artwork from which we were copying the Hostess Twinkies logo but drank a quart of blue tempera paint while we weren’t watching.

Much like a truck job, have the elephant washed and scrubbed with soap just prior to lettering. They are always dirty, and the colors will have no strength if the surface is not clean. In order to stay cool and keep the insects away, elephants will thrown dirt on themselves. Try to schedule your work as closely as possible to the time it will be shown or used. Your job will look its best for no more than a day after it has been painted.

To lay out, simply use white chalk (elephant skin is medium to dark gray) and a yardstick or four-ft rule (forget the pounce pattern) and proceed as you normally would if you were lettering the side of a building in an earthquake. Lay out your lettering or design as carefully as reasonably possible and use a small to medium-sized fitch to outline the letters. Fill in with a larger brush ( we used foam throw-away brushes but they tended to be a little too soft). Despite its thickness and roughness, an elephant’s skin is very sensitive. A stiff brush such as a fitch will not only tickle the animal but can be irritating. We noticed tears coming from the eyes of one of the elephants we had just painted. We felt bad at the sight but we didn’t like working over Memorial Day weekend either.

A word about copy: despite the size of an elephant, it will not take heavy copy. Keep it short: no intricate loops or Spencerian scripts – large, bold strokes and colors are best. It is imperative that you use a non-toxic water based paint such as a tempera, not only so the work can be hosed off after the show but more importantly so that you won’t make the animal sick. (The promotional manager from the Clyde Beatty Circus told us that just a few months earlier a national television network commissioned someone to paint its logo on the side of one of his elephants for a new spring season promotion and had used bulletin enamels. Enamel, of course, not only did not come off but almost killed the beast. The beast that should have been killed was the painter. ) We used tempera colors which proved excellent for elephant lettering. It will probably be necessary to double-coat colors such as white, yellow, orange or other pastels, but it’s worth it if you have the time.

Elephants do not stand still, so work carefully but rapidly. Use a step-stool or box to stand on. Scaffolding is of little use because it cannot be moved quickly if necessary. Do not try to push the animal into position for your convenience – you cannot push an elephant. A few gentle taps with a heavy stick will usually do the trick but this flourish of bravery is best left to the trainer.

It is not inconceivable that with a little good fortune you too may be called upon to paint a 10,000 pound animal that doesn’t want to be painted. And as any veteran signpainter will tell you, it probably won’t be the most uncommon job you will be asked to do.
by Rick Sacks
Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:18 am
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Any funny stories to share?
Replies: 37
Views: 26317

I worked in a shop with Albert. Albert was a small guy, from Florida, and he spent his after hours and before broke hours in the saloons. He'd show for work when broke. He didn't understand personal hygiene either, often smelling like a racing goat. I had many adventures over the years with Albert, ...
by Rick Sacks
Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:00 pm
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Any funny stories to share?
Replies: 37
Views: 26317

I was sent out on a wall job down on Miracle Mile of the coast highway down in Newport Beach with Hal Benedict. I don't remember the exact name of the business, but it was something massage. This was the first of that new facade of .. houses in this posh area, and we set up some tressles and a plank...
by Rick Sacks
Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:37 am
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Promotional Cards
Replies: 2
Views: 2040

Mike, I remember you tracking the cards and finding that there was a regular small percentage of customers responding that generated work, and there was a delay of several months before the action started. With this info tracked, you could know how many cards to send out when to fill the gaps at slo...
by Rick Sacks
Sun Mar 11, 2007 10:10 am
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Any funny stories to share?
Replies: 37
Views: 26317

Albert

Albert was a slight man that received his SS check and went on a drunken binge until it ran out and then came back to City Sign Co to work. Whenever he could get some coins for alcohol, he'd disappear. I remember when I soldered a nickel onto the head of a roofing nail and pounded it into the top of...
by Rick Sacks
Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:45 am
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Surface Gild Failure
Replies: 7
Views: 5231

Joe,
No cupping, the board is four inches thick and better than three feet wide and fifteen feet long. There is some checking though and that is not a big problem. The summer sun hits both sides through the day. The letters are carved into the flat smoothe surface, no blasting.
by Rick Sacks
Sun Aug 13, 2006 9:38 am
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Surface Gild Failure
Replies: 7
Views: 5231

At this time the bubles rise and set and continue. They can be popped, but appear next to where they were. There is also some sap risig to the surface. I tend to think it's moisture in the wood. This was milled here on the coast a couple years ago and after gilding was moved inland to a much hotter ...
by Rick Sacks
Sat Jul 29, 2006 8:27 am
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Surface Gild Failure
Replies: 7
Views: 5231

Surface Gild Failure

We sealed the incised letters of this redwood slab with a few coats of shellac, then a coat of 1 shot white, then a tad of imitation gold into Lafranc slow size. Two days later we gilded it with 23k and flipped the board and did the same on the other side. Next day it was loaded into a truck and dri...
by Rick Sacks
Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:56 am
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Have Stabilo pencils changed?
Replies: 9
Views: 6680

We've been using those felt tip water based ink pens made by Pentel in an ochre color and they show up on both dark and light colored surfaces. I think they're called "Sign Pen"
by Rick Sacks
Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:29 am
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: MDO vs. other new tech substrates
Replies: 11
Views: 7629

I continue to use MDO for the above stated reasons, however, there is another problem I've encountered with it. At first I thought it was my problem, but as I travel away from coastal areas I see it elsewhere also. The problem seems to be a failure of surface paint right down to the MDO on places wh...
by Rick Sacks
Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:15 am
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Enameling
Replies: 3
Views: 2686

Enameling

A project I'm asked to bid on for a municipal park involves some enameled signs with a written guarantee against fading for 25 years. Is such a thing possible?
by Rick Sacks
Thu Mar 17, 2005 3:52 pm
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: New Ghost Sign - Thanks Rick
Replies: 1
Views: 1544

For years now, I've been talking to some of the letterheads withing fifty miles of that barn, thinking we might get permission to do some restoration on it as a group project. It's right by the highway and has tremendous exposure. There was once a Redwood Coast Letterhead group that went into the ai...
by Rick Sacks
Fri Dec 10, 2004 9:04 pm
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Thermal Pane ??
Replies: 8
Views: 6311

I understand the importance of stop lines on the glass for expansion around the edges. I remember also breaking a piece of glass as an apprentice where I had a large dark panel in the sun. What I'm asking is if the gap between the two panes will get hotter and act as an oven to increase the possibil...
by Rick Sacks
Thu Dec 09, 2004 8:24 am
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Will paint mask stick to a gilded surface?
Replies: 4
Views: 3882

Joe, even if you didn't burnish the mask down, so it possibly might not lift the gold, it would alter its appearance from the adhesive residue. Low tack transfer tape that is hand cut might work, but still is too iffy for my taste.
by Rick Sacks
Thu Dec 09, 2004 8:03 am
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Thermal Pane ??
Replies: 8
Views: 6311

Dan, I just wonder which direction to be thinking.....will I increase or decrease the chances of incurring heat damage?
by Rick Sacks
Tue Dec 07, 2004 5:43 pm
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Thermal Pane ??
Replies: 8
Views: 6311

Thermal Pane ??

I did a gold job on some dual glazed panels that look like there is perhaps 3/4" between them. I wonder if I painted a dark panel behind the gold would it heat up the air between the glasses to where it could break?
by Rick Sacks
Sun Dec 05, 2004 8:55 am
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Window Gilding in Winter
Replies: 6
Views: 4993

One of my fears would be the cold glass cracking when bathed with warm size. Not knowing cold climates, I'm shooting in the dark.
by Rick Sacks
Wed Oct 20, 2004 2:53 pm
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Redwood peel up problems
Replies: 9
Views: 6855

I've never found sucess with the finish first method either, but every few years I try it again hoping it might work. Mike, why the sanding sealer? I use Anchor #155 on bare wood and find very little pull up. If I had a way to regulate the pressure down, I could really dial in on it. I'm using a fin...
by Rick Sacks
Sat Aug 14, 2004 7:27 am
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Smith's Cream
Replies: 5
Views: 5365

John, for the small blending job you describe, I think paletting the brush with some boiled linseed oil might work better than Smith Cream.
by Rick Sacks
Tue Jul 27, 2004 8:14 am
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Train Car Lettering
Replies: 8
Views: 8196

Just what is it that you want to know? I have a train customer. Everything from steam engines, coaches and gondolas, depot signs, and the round house. Jim Ingram does most of the work for the railroad museum in Sacramento. They might be a connection for what you want.
by Rick Sacks
Fri Jul 23, 2004 7:09 am
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Signmaking 101: Repeating a sandblasted symetrical design
Replies: 7
Views: 6971

We have one of those green self healing mats on a work table where we do the vinyl stuff. I often use that table top with a pounce wheel and it works fine. I learned to use a piece of sho-card under the pattern or felt.
by Rick Sacks
Fri Jul 23, 2004 7:01 am
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Signmaking 101 Roller Covers
Replies: 1
Views: 2552

Jack, I also grew up on short nap mohair roller covers, but it's been many years since I've used one. I never liked cleaning them, and cleaning them, and cleaning them. I still have a couple of those spinners, and occassionally find one and hold it and remember stories associated with the subject. I...
by Rick Sacks
Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:54 pm
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Signmaking 101: Ladders/Walkboards & Sketches
Replies: 4
Views: 4564

I'm not understanding Dave's comment about the use of a plank on ladder jacks being unsafe? I've been doing that for the past thirty five years.
by Rick Sacks
Thu Jul 22, 2004 9:46 am
Forum: Hand Lettering Techniques and Step by Steps
Topic: Signmaking 101: Routers, router bits and CNC's
Replies: 8
Views: 19834

Hey guys, remember when Walter H first came out with his plans for making a pin router? His scheme for using over and under size pins to create the needed offsets for making perfect fitting inlays? Sure had some fun charging into some of the pre CNC ways of doing things that seemed incredibly high t...
by Rick Sacks
Thu Jul 22, 2004 9:46 am
Forum: The Hand Lettering Forum
Topic: Signmaking 101: Routers, router bits and CNC's
Replies: 7
Views: 16190

Hey guys, remember when Walter H first came out with his plans for making a pin router? His scheme for using over and under size pins to create the needed offsets for making perfect fitting inlays? Sure had some fun charging into some of the pre CNC ways of doing things that seemed incredibly high t...