I am looking for a company or web site or somewhere where I can figuire out what the proper specs would be for packing and crating flat glass . At this point I just do what I think is above and beyound but I am wondering what a commercial crating company would do.
I know we have talked about this before and a few people brought up good suggestions but I want to make sure everything is based in an industry standard.
Roderick
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Crating and shipping glass
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Re: Crating and shipping glass
Rod,
In the past I have purchased 3000lb. crates of glass as well as been to major glass suppliers in L.A. and the crating materials and methods
have pretty much remained the same since 1980.
Big crates of plate glass are shipped in crates of board lumber assembled with nail guns. The cushioning around and under the glass is
simply pressed paper composition blocks and the crates are open beamed. They keep the glass sheets slightly apart from each other
by dusting them with a soda-like white powdery material that easily dissolves in water. I use a bucket and sponge to remove this "powder"
and eventually the water will became laden with this powder to the point that if you have an open cut it will burn a little open getting it into
that cut.
These large wooden crates of glass are always complete with footed blocks and shipped up right to keep the glass traveling on it's edge,
as this is its strongest position to withstand an impact.
Pat
In the past I have purchased 3000lb. crates of glass as well as been to major glass suppliers in L.A. and the crating materials and methods
have pretty much remained the same since 1980.
Big crates of plate glass are shipped in crates of board lumber assembled with nail guns. The cushioning around and under the glass is
simply pressed paper composition blocks and the crates are open beamed. They keep the glass sheets slightly apart from each other
by dusting them with a soda-like white powdery material that easily dissolves in water. I use a bucket and sponge to remove this "powder"
and eventually the water will became laden with this powder to the point that if you have an open cut it will burn a little open getting it into
that cut.
These large wooden crates of glass are always complete with footed blocks and shipped up right to keep the glass traveling on it's edge,
as this is its strongest position to withstand an impact.
Pat
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Roderick Treece
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I figuired it out that it is better to have a national crater freighter do it for me.
So the bottom line is I added all the numbers up and it's costing me more to do it myself. To top it off If I do it I have all worry if it breaks.
They even pick up at my shop !!!
Roderick
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So the bottom line is I added all the numbers up and it's costing me more to do it myself. To top it off If I do it I have all worry if it breaks.
They even pick up at my shop !!!
Roderick
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Two shipments went out Tuesday using Craters and Frieghters. Really nice people to deal with.
I am at this point still in dispute with UPS over the claim I filed. I am in a Complete BOYCOT of UPS. I have been reading alot about how they deal with people and their damage claims and it doesn't sound good.
Roderick
I am at this point still in dispute with UPS over the claim I filed. I am in a Complete BOYCOT of UPS. I have been reading alot about how they deal with people and their damage claims and it doesn't sound good.
Roderick
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Robert,
What is it your shipping. Fedx never broke anything but when I inquired about any damage to glass mirrors with art they said it was covered. !!!
As for taking it to a UPS store to be packed and shipped. I called 4 UPS stores and gave them all the same info. 3 would have packed it in a way that would have broken it. Only one was going to put it in a wooden crate. If you read stories about using the UPS stores it doesn't sound like they help you if it brecks.
What is it your shipping. Fedx never broke anything but when I inquired about any damage to glass mirrors with art they said it was covered. !!!
As for taking it to a UPS store to be packed and shipped. I called 4 UPS stores and gave them all the same info. 3 would have packed it in a way that would have broken it. Only one was going to put it in a wooden crate. If you read stories about using the UPS stores it doesn't sound like they help you if it brecks.
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Ask Roland Corp. tech support what they think of UPS.
They absolutely won't use them. They told me that packages
are dropped off a conveyor belt 20-30 ft. They go FedX
with much better success.
Mark
They absolutely won't use them. They told me that packages
are dropped off a conveyor belt 20-30 ft. They go FedX
with much better success.
Mark
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Robert,
I am still waiting for Fedx frieght to get back to me about if they cover breckage for artwork. Most of the people I have talked to at Fedx say NO so watch your as with them.
I am still waiting for Fedx frieght to get back to me about if they cover breckage for artwork. Most of the people I have talked to at Fedx say NO so watch your as with them.
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I just settled my 3 week on going claim with UPS fully paying for the damage. With UPS it all boils down to a few things.
Packing and crating over and above indusrty standards. I have learned alot more about that latly and have upgraded my packing.
Photograph all packing procidures begining to end.
When the claim is denied which it will be just file a dispute to the claim denial.
UPS uses a company called Chrawford and CO. Which is attually UPS for their disputed claims.
When you get assigned your claims person send them all the photos along with proof that the packing materials and contruction are over and above UPS and indusrty standards.
At that point they should approve it.
DO NOT TAKE IT TO THE UPS STORE TO PACK AND SHIP ANYTHING !
I have been very lucky at this point to have only had 2 shipment broken. I may use UPS Parcel for small items but Craters and Frieghters seems to be working out good so far. Their turn around for taking care of any issue is amediate as far as the contract reads.
Good luck to everyone !!!
Packing and crating over and above indusrty standards. I have learned alot more about that latly and have upgraded my packing.
Photograph all packing procidures begining to end.
When the claim is denied which it will be just file a dispute to the claim denial.
UPS uses a company called Chrawford and CO. Which is attually UPS for their disputed claims.
When you get assigned your claims person send them all the photos along with proof that the packing materials and contruction are over and above UPS and indusrty standards.
At that point they should approve it.
DO NOT TAKE IT TO THE UPS STORE TO PACK AND SHIP ANYTHING !
I have been very lucky at this point to have only had 2 shipment broken. I may use UPS Parcel for small items but Craters and Frieghters seems to be working out good so far. Their turn around for taking care of any issue is amediate as far as the contract reads.
Good luck to everyone !!!
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