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Ronan Japan Colors

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Bob Rochon
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Ronan Japan Colors

Post by Bob Rochon »

I have been messing with japan colors for quite a few years now on my carved signs and I do love them for thier fast drying oil based nature.

I do find they are different to work with than lettering enamels and I would like to find out how to use them better. My current use is mainly for pictoral work but I find, straight out of the can is less than moveable and with a little reducer they almost become too thin to use.

How do others use Japan colors, meaning application and or method and techniques? I do know they most likely have to be cleared over to give any more than a breif life to them.
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Larry White
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Japan Colors...

Post by Larry White »

I pretty much use Japan color in all my glass work and have followed Rick Glawson's recomendation of using clear Fibroseal as a thinner and binder. I have found that it helps the paint to flow and cover better. I will also use Smith's Cream to extend the open time, especially when doing a blended or marble background.

One of Rick's old catalogs stated:
"CLEAR FIBROSEAL - This famous old product has long been a favorite with sign artists. It takes the place of all quick drying mixing varnishes. Clear Fibroseal is thin in body, flows free and dries in 30 minutes. All japan colors should contain a liberal portion of Fibroseal as both the thinner and binder in order to secure the best possible results."

Hope that helps. :D
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Post by Raymond Chapman »

Aren't we glad that Rick wrote some of that stuff down. I can't always remember what all of those varnishes were used for and what went with what and why.

I miss him more and more.
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...I had a dream about him just last night...he called me up here at my shop and he was giving me some advice on a project I was working on...



...ditto on missing him greatly.... -LW
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Post by Danny Baronian »

If anyone's checking in here for the first time, or haven't check this page in a while, do it:

Rick Glawson page:

http://www.theletterheads.com/glawson/glawsonmain.html scroll down to Tips and techniques

Varnish descriptions:

http://www.theletterheads.com/glawson/varnishes.html

If you have a catalogue from Esoteric, thumb through it. Not only did it list the products but included what the material was best suited for.

Larry, did the advice help?
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Billy Pickett
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Post by Billy Pickett »

...I haven't been able to find "poster" paint for years. It always (used to) cover well and hopefully (since I last bought any) has not had it's formulas changed - and is now covers poorly when thinned. I always thinned it so that it was very loose on the brush, and could be painted with quickly.

...As fa as I know, this paint is (was) intended for paper, card, and reverse glass work, and was not (really) for exterior use. ...I'd say, that if you want to use it outdoors and/or feel you need to clear it, you would be better off using regular ol' lettering enamel.
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Post by Mike Jackson »

Billy,
Check out :
http://www.mannbrothers.com/products/si ... poster.htm

They sell japans and poster paints, along with quite a few other less common paint lines.

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