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Something You Should Not Do
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Something You Should Not Do
Found this on the Web, a lesson for all.
http://www.hollyer.info/jwh.php
Drink to your health...not to your death.
RMN
http://www.hollyer.info/jwh.php
Drink to your health...not to your death.
RMN
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Wow is all I can say.
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I offer a toast to poor Willy....cheers all!! And Robare.....where do you find all this. Very curious and interesting as well.
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Opps...I stumbled onto something...and here it is. Sorry Doug.
http://www.chuckstoyland.com/potpourri/ ... %20photos/
http://www.chuckstoyland.com/potpourri/ ... %20photos/
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Kind of strange to read that after seeing some of his incredible work in London pubs and possibly the panels I seen with Doug in Islington recently,exact same style and techniques used on those. I speak with an old acid timer in Leeds occasionally and he tests his acid on taste. He is now about 79 and strong as an ox ,still etching aswell. crazy stuff! I better stay sober.....
Interesting...Thanks Robare.
Dave
Interesting...Thanks Robare.
Dave
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I know an old acid timer also who is from L.A. and he too does the crazy acid tasting tests.
His name is........ our own Pat!!!!
Was in shock when I saw him do that.
He neutralizes his acidic blood with an occasional dinner meal I have been told.
His name is........ our own Pat!!!!
Was in shock when I saw him do that.
He neutralizes his acidic blood with an occasional dinner meal I have been told.
Realizing we are in the 2nd renaissance of the arts.
Learn, copy and trying to improve...
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Learn, copy and trying to improve...
Still in the learning phase

Amsterdam Netherlands
www.ferrywinkler.nl
www.schitterend.eu
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Guilty as charged, on two counts, and in two countries now Erik.
My plea is "do as I say, and not as I do".
For me, I think that it comes from my years of being a mechanic and handling car batteries. When you gradually became aware that something was creating a biting feeling on the tender inside of an arm, the quickest way to see if you had brushed up on a battery post was to "taste" the spot and see if it requires neutralizing due to acid.
I think the same holds true with those old embossers. Since acid and water appear very similar, the quickest way to tell whether you have made contact is by taste. Then seek out a wash area.
I read about AND also saw a London embosser use the taste method on some very weakened acid to see if it was correct. This weak mixture was not for etching, but rather to wet the edge of a strip of glass used while applying animal fat curbs to contain the white acid within the glass panel being etched. The weak acid prevents the fat from sticking to this glass strip "fatting up" tool. The fat only sticks to the narrow dry glass edge of the panel being etched. VERY clever, and the fat is reused over and over.
A funny side effect I have noticed, is that I can make mounting holes in glass, simply by "spitting" them in!! Haha!
Pat
My plea is "do as I say, and not as I do".
For me, I think that it comes from my years of being a mechanic and handling car batteries. When you gradually became aware that something was creating a biting feeling on the tender inside of an arm, the quickest way to see if you had brushed up on a battery post was to "taste" the spot and see if it requires neutralizing due to acid.
I think the same holds true with those old embossers. Since acid and water appear very similar, the quickest way to tell whether you have made contact is by taste. Then seek out a wash area.
I read about AND also saw a London embosser use the taste method on some very weakened acid to see if it was correct. This weak mixture was not for etching, but rather to wet the edge of a strip of glass used while applying animal fat curbs to contain the white acid within the glass panel being etched. The weak acid prevents the fat from sticking to this glass strip "fatting up" tool. The fat only sticks to the narrow dry glass edge of the panel being etched. VERY clever, and the fat is reused over and over.
A funny side effect I have noticed, is that I can make mounting holes in glass, simply by "spitting" them in!! Haha!
Pat
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Good old Pat, there is allways an extra story to be told and something to learn. Miss you mate. Greetings from Lucien Helle city.
Erik
Erik
Realizing we are in the 2nd renaissance of the arts.
Learn, copy and trying to improve...
Still in the learning phase
Amsterdam Netherlands
www.ferrywinkler.nl
www.schitterend.eu
www.facebook.com/Schitterend.eu
Learn, copy and trying to improve...
Still in the learning phase

Amsterdam Netherlands
www.ferrywinkler.nl
www.schitterend.eu
www.facebook.com/Schitterend.eu
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I've missed something here as I have no idea where the photos of his glass work are/originated?