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Need help quick....(glass signs)
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Need help quick....(glass signs)
G'day,
I need to do an airbrush fade (Aqua to Transparent) on glass either tomorrow or next week and don't have my Chromatic clear up here, any suggestions?
I do have: 1-Shot Super Gloss Tinting Clear
Frog Juice, both Solvent and Water Based
1-Shot UV Acrylic Clear
HOK UC-3 Clear and something else down at the shop, nothing known as a good clear for glass though.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Doug.
I need to do an airbrush fade (Aqua to Transparent) on glass either tomorrow or next week and don't have my Chromatic clear up here, any suggestions?
I do have: 1-Shot Super Gloss Tinting Clear
Frog Juice, both Solvent and Water Based
1-Shot UV Acrylic Clear
HOK UC-3 Clear and something else down at the shop, nothing known as a good clear for glass though.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Doug.
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You can always use gold size...One Shot dies pretty darned fast, but you could add a little Japan Dryers. I probably wouldn't use a 12 hours oil size by any brand. Clear Fibroseal dries REALLY fast.
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Vintage Ornamental Clip art
Jackson Hole, WY
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Teton Images
Jackson Hole photography blog:
Best of the Tetons
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THANK YOU GOD! (I mean Mike)
THANK YOU!!!
I forgot to mention that I also had gold size. I was thinking why not?
THANK YOU AGAIN!
Doug.
I forgot to mention that I also had gold size. I was thinking why not?
THANK YOU AGAIN!
Doug.
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DOUGLAS!!!!!
You have been quiet lately. I had hoped you were mad at us!
It seems people are using hardener much more lately than we ever did. Sounds like a good product with many applications. I am in the process of going through Steven Parrish's old sign kits before I send them to the Museum, and I see several cans of Japan Dryer, but no hardener!
Mike
You have been quiet lately. I had hoped you were mad at us!
It seems people are using hardener much more lately than we ever did. Sounds like a good product with many applications. I am in the process of going through Steven Parrish's old sign kits before I send them to the Museum, and I see several cans of Japan Dryer, but no hardener!
Mike
Mike Jackson / co-administrator
Golden Era Studios
Vintage Ornamental Clip art
Jackson Hole, WY
Photography site:
Teton Images
Jackson Hole photography blog:
Best of the Tetons
Golden Era Studios
Vintage Ornamental Clip art
Jackson Hole, WY
Photography site:
Teton Images
Jackson Hole photography blog:
Best of the Tetons
Doug,
I was given the impression at one time that One Shot tinting clear had the same properties as the other One Shot paints, it just didnt have any pigment. I would tend to think that would be a good choice to use it if you were going to use the aqua from One Shot. No drying surprises, or other cross mixing problems that might occur.
Is there any time for a test panel?
Maybe Kent could chime in and confirm this.
Jeff
I was given the impression at one time that One Shot tinting clear had the same properties as the other One Shot paints, it just didnt have any pigment. I would tend to think that would be a good choice to use it if you were going to use the aqua from One Shot. No drying surprises, or other cross mixing problems that might occur.
Is there any time for a test panel?
Maybe Kent could chime in and confirm this.
Jeff
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Olde Lang Signs
Pittsburgh, PA, USA
412-732-9999
Olde Lang Signs
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Hi Mike and Jeff...
Well, was thinking the same thing, that the one shot clear was a good idea...although again I ain't got a heap of experience with it. Have used all the products Goldie has mentioned with good results. The hardener used carefully is very good stuff. At Memorial Conclave this winter Studdley was mixing into the back-up screen ink and I was duely impressed by how much better it stood up to the subsequent treatments...you know cleaning...and solvent things.
Mike...sorry ain't been here as much but find myself swamped at the shop and most of my time at the computer has been taken up with all the new discoveries in photoshop...courtesy of the Mr.Bee. Having said that, I do hestiate to step into things that are "weighty". I'm not good at making what I think "sound right" when I type. I guess I've never learned the on-line voice and it has gotten me in trouble more than once!
Well, was thinking the same thing, that the one shot clear was a good idea...although again I ain't got a heap of experience with it. Have used all the products Goldie has mentioned with good results. The hardener used carefully is very good stuff. At Memorial Conclave this winter Studdley was mixing into the back-up screen ink and I was duely impressed by how much better it stood up to the subsequent treatments...you know cleaning...and solvent things.
Mike...sorry ain't been here as much but find myself swamped at the shop and most of my time at the computer has been taken up with all the new discoveries in photoshop...courtesy of the Mr.Bee. Having said that, I do hestiate to step into things that are "weighty". I'm not good at making what I think "sound right" when I type. I guess I've never learned the on-line voice and it has gotten me in trouble more than once!
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a quick P.S.
...should have added that I also "heard" that the clear is just non-pigmented medium/carrier.
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THANK YOU!
All Excellent info, THANK YOU all!
I just found a can of Chromatic Sign Finishing Clear, but I don't think that is close to the Clear Overcoat Varnish I have down in NJ.
I am surprised that the hardener doesn't make the paint/clear too brittle to hold onto the glass. I use the 1-Shot hardner pretty regular, but just in backgrounds (gives a nice slick finish that seems to resist gold hitchhikers), lettering and striping. I have also had better luck with a product called DOI (Distinctive of Image or something like that), which is an enamel catalyst (hardner) designed for improved durability and prolonged gloss. It acts as a flow enhancer while striping and resists the ribbon effect from clearing over it.
Has anyone used PELUCID by the people who make POR-15? It seems to be straight Isocyanate with some thinner in it, said to be a ROCK HARD CLEAR that resists chipping and cracking. I have used it 3 years ago to clear a sign, I now want to see how it has held up.
Thanks again.
I just found a can of Chromatic Sign Finishing Clear, but I don't think that is close to the Clear Overcoat Varnish I have down in NJ.
I am surprised that the hardener doesn't make the paint/clear too brittle to hold onto the glass. I use the 1-Shot hardner pretty regular, but just in backgrounds (gives a nice slick finish that seems to resist gold hitchhikers), lettering and striping. I have also had better luck with a product called DOI (Distinctive of Image or something like that), which is an enamel catalyst (hardner) designed for improved durability and prolonged gloss. It acts as a flow enhancer while striping and resists the ribbon effect from clearing over it.
Has anyone used PELUCID by the people who make POR-15? It seems to be straight Isocyanate with some thinner in it, said to be a ROCK HARD CLEAR that resists chipping and cracking. I have used it 3 years ago to clear a sign, I now want to see how it has held up.
Thanks again.
Doug F.
FALLOUT Grafix
Port St Lucie, FL
Formerly from NJ, Formerly from VT,
Formerly from SF, CA, Formerly from NC,
Formerly from CO, FINALLY settled in FL!
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Port St Lucie, FL
Formerly from NJ, Formerly from VT,
Formerly from SF, CA, Formerly from NC,
Formerly from CO, FINALLY settled in FL!
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