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Glass Signs (Showcase your work here!)
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Hi Lars,
Nice to see you here and showing your new work. Looks like we have another convert. Welcome to the religion. hahaha.
The materials and method you described sound fine. I noticed you also requested any comments on technique previously. I suspect no one answered because there was nothing wrong with your description. Your description exhibited the same thinking that how most of us would have.
My only thought regarding water-gilding aluminium leaf is it requires a stronger water-size that gold leaf. You should adjust the strength of the size according to the type of leaf. Heavier leaf (silver/copper/brass/aluminium) generally adhere better with a stronger size.
I note you used white behind the white metal and yellow ochre behind the gold. I normally go straight over with my black backing. Generally, if the gilding is correctly done, the colour of the backing paint isn't important. If you have small cracks and holes, this colour may help to hide small imperfections, but if they are big enough to show, it is better to patch them with the leaf.
Sometimes, if it suits the design, the metal can be abraded (partly rubbed off) in order to deliberately show the background colour.
Nice to see you here and showing your new work. Looks like we have another convert. Welcome to the religion. hahaha.
The materials and method you described sound fine. I noticed you also requested any comments on technique previously. I suspect no one answered because there was nothing wrong with your description. Your description exhibited the same thinking that how most of us would have.
My only thought regarding water-gilding aluminium leaf is it requires a stronger water-size that gold leaf. You should adjust the strength of the size according to the type of leaf. Heavier leaf (silver/copper/brass/aluminium) generally adhere better with a stronger size.
I note you used white behind the white metal and yellow ochre behind the gold. I normally go straight over with my black backing. Generally, if the gilding is correctly done, the colour of the backing paint isn't important. If you have small cracks and holes, this colour may help to hide small imperfections, but if they are big enough to show, it is better to patch them with the leaf.
Sometimes, if it suits the design, the metal can be abraded (partly rubbed off) in order to deliberately show the background colour.
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Thanks for your fine answer, I appreciate that.
Next project is to try some glue chipping. I have hide glue, sand for sandblasting (not very fine), I just need to build a chamber to chip inside and some heat lamps inside to set down the humidity.
Next project is to try some glue chipping. I have hide glue, sand for sandblasting (not very fine), I just need to build a chamber to chip inside and some heat lamps inside to set down the humidity.
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Hey Guys
I wanted to share a fun job that I did in Brooklyn NY not too long ago.
I wanted to share a fun job that I did in Brooklyn NY not too long ago.
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I wish I knew how to do that! Beautiful
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Bob that looks good.
What font is that, is it already prismatic or did you do that yourself?
Very nice.
Erik
What font is that, is it already prismatic or did you do that yourself?
Very nice.
Erik
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Learn, copy and trying to improve...
Still in the learning phase
Amsterdam Netherlands
www.ferrywinkler.nl
www.schitterend.eu
www.facebook.com/Schitterend.eu
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Thanks guys!
Erik, The 'POWERFUL MAGIC' is LHF Boston Truckstyle, and the 'TATTOO' is LHF Jumbo Spurs FULL, matte and burnished finished to acheive the prismatic effect. The font comes with a few different variations. The entire job is a 2 tone 23k job. The background panel consists of a few different panels I took apart and customized. The actual job is 65"wide and completed on location in one day.
Lars, I like your work alot! This job is the same basic proceedure as the work you are doing with 2 differences. 1- The shapes & eliments of the designs are different. Try to 'think' in terms of shape and balance, and experiment with your designs. 2- This job is done on location instead of in the shop which makes for some interesting challenges!
Erik, The 'POWERFUL MAGIC' is LHF Boston Truckstyle, and the 'TATTOO' is LHF Jumbo Spurs FULL, matte and burnished finished to acheive the prismatic effect. The font comes with a few different variations. The entire job is a 2 tone 23k job. The background panel consists of a few different panels I took apart and customized. The actual job is 65"wide and completed on location in one day.
Lars, I like your work alot! This job is the same basic proceedure as the work you are doing with 2 differences. 1- The shapes & eliments of the designs are different. Try to 'think' in terms of shape and balance, and experiment with your designs. 2- This job is done on location instead of in the shop which makes for some interesting challenges!
Bob Gamache
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LHF Jumbo!
http://www.letterheadfonts.com/fonts/jumbo.php
Again John Studden, don't you wish he was your brother sometimes?
Erik
http://www.letterheadfonts.com/fonts/jumbo.php
Again John Studden, don't you wish he was your brother sometimes?
Erik
Realizing we are in the 2nd renaissance of the arts.
Learn, copy and trying to improve...
Still in the learning phase
Amsterdam Netherlands
www.ferrywinkler.nl
www.schitterend.eu
www.facebook.com/Schitterend.eu
Learn, copy and trying to improve...
Still in the learning phase
Amsterdam Netherlands
www.ferrywinkler.nl
www.schitterend.eu
www.facebook.com/Schitterend.eu
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Nice work there Bob!
The layout is allways the most important part of any job and you did a very nice layout.
The layout is allways the most important part of any job and you did a very nice layout.
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Thank you Jerry, much appreciated! I try my best!
Again John Studden 'the main man'! Thanks for the fonts John!
Ken McTague (LHF BostonTruck Style) is no slouch either!
Again John Studden 'the main man'! Thanks for the fonts John!
Ken McTague (LHF BostonTruck Style) is no slouch either!
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envyable, thanks for sharing .
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I sent the images on these two glass panels earlier this year.
Here's the completed project in my friend Clive's front door glass panels. John
Here's the completed project in my friend Clive's front door glass panels. John
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A reverse glass project produced in 1999 for Paris Las Vegas Casino and Resort.
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this is nothing short of amazing! beautiful work.bob gamache wrote:Hey Guys
I wanted to share a fun job that I did in Brooklyn NY not too long ago.
THE SKYS THE LIMIT
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Hi Noah
thank you for the feedback! Always learning!
thank you for the feedback! Always learning!
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Mr Oatis! Awesome job! Nice depth effect on the main copy. Is the bottom gold panel engine turned or is that matte and burnished diamond shapes? Cool!
Bob Gamache
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Bob: Thanks for your interest. That "harlequin" pattern in the lower panel was done in a formal Damar varnish pattern by Rose Oatis (The Queen of Damar)---she laid the diamonds out in Stabilo on the front of the glass, "lettered on" alternating sections in the Damar, then scribed it when it was ready. Everything was then water gilt. The Eiffel letters were Damar, too, with pearl centers. Maybe I have a close up, or two.
I rendered the design and collaborated with Leonard Otillio, who did a great job of digitizing; we used potted masks to lay down the outlines.
This was a tricky job, because the sign was actually done in the shop, on multiple panes of glass, as shown. So it was necessary to build a rack in the studio with the panes spaced apart, in order to maintin the correct registration.
I rendered the design and collaborated with Leonard Otillio, who did a great job of digitizing; we used potted masks to lay down the outlines.
This was a tricky job, because the sign was actually done in the shop, on multiple panes of glass, as shown. So it was necessary to build a rack in the studio with the panes spaced apart, in order to maintin the correct registration.
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beautiful piece Mark !..post all the close ups you have......thanks
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Lovely work Bob and all in one day ,man your motoring.... I was with Mark and Rose last year and stood with them next to this glass work for some photos. The detail of the damar tooling was beautifully done by Rose the whole panel was very nicely made with exquisite details all over . They really took good care of my family while we were visiting Las Vegas.
Dave
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Thanks Dave! Yes, the job was completed in 1day. Early start, late finish and alot of planning. Thanks Mark for the details, I really like your job alot. Wish I could see it in person!
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Here is one I just finished yesterday
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Looks like a nice chip. How will it be hung - mirror clips, or a hidden backplate, or???
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I think the client is going to have it framed and hang it in their bar.
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nice looking panel Rod ! Now tell me about the "snail" chip .......was that intentional ? I've gotten chip like that before, but it seems accidental with me. Mitchell's chipping book states this type of chip happens ehen it's hot and dry, and with less glue per sq ft. (.95 to 1.1 ozs rather than 3.75 ).....would you agree or was yours just accidental as well ?
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I would call it a coffee bean and It's the first time it's happened to me. I normally get fern patterns. I've heard it happens when the glue is thick.
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Question:
When Chipping, what Ratio are you using ?
Also, what Method is being used for Chipping ?
When Chipping, what Ratio are you using ?
Also, what Method is being used for Chipping ?
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Hi Kevin,
I use 1oz dry weight glue to 2oz water. There are many ways to glue chip. Best thing to do is do some reshearch on the forum and look at Rick Glawsons write up about it. There are also a few good books written about how to glue chip. Good luck.
You are also welcome to come to my studio for a workshop on chipping.
www.customglasssigns.com
Roderick
I use 1oz dry weight glue to 2oz water. There are many ways to glue chip. Best thing to do is do some reshearch on the forum and look at Rick Glawsons write up about it. There are also a few good books written about how to glue chip. Good luck.
You are also welcome to come to my studio for a workshop on chipping.
www.customglasssigns.com
Roderick
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www.customglasssigns.com
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Hi Rod.
I might take you up on your offer. Could you give me more information as to your Workshop ?
I will try to bring my Dad with me.
Thanks
Kevin
I might take you up on your offer. Could you give me more information as to your Workshop ?
I will try to bring my Dad with me.
Thanks
Kevin
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Kevin,
Sounds good. Best thing to do is call me so we can talk about what you want to do. I would plan on at least 3 to 4 days to make something nice. Where do you live ?
www.customglasssigns.com
760 943 9299
Sounds good. Best thing to do is call me so we can talk about what you want to do. I would plan on at least 3 to 4 days to make something nice. Where do you live ?
www.customglasssigns.com
760 943 9299
Roderick
www.customglasssigns.com
www.customglasssigns.com